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If the ten commandments are not essential to salvation, explain 1 John 3:4.

How would we know what sin is without the ten commandments?

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It appears that you did not actually read or at least read carefully the detailed response provided to your initial question. I will repeat the section relevant to your follow-up question for you here:

Paul refers to this covenant as "written and engraven in stones", i.e. on the tables of stone. He calls it "the ministration of death...the ministration of condemnation...that which is done away" (2 Cor. 3:7-11). The covenant associated with the Ten Commandments can certainly not give any hope of salvation.

Christ blotted out "the handwriting of ordinances that was against us" (Col. 2:14) on the cross.. This alludes to God's handwriting of the Ten Commandments on the tables of stone. Likewise Paul speaks of "the law...being dead...the oldness of the letter" (Rom. 7:6), probably referring to the letters of the Ten Commandments which were written on the tables of stone.

Just one of the Ten Commandments is styled "the law" in Rom. 7:8: "The law... said, Thou shalt not covet". The preceding verses in Rom. 7:1-7 stress how "the law" has been done away by Christ's death; "the law" therefore includes the Ten Commandments.

All this makes it clear that the Old Covenant and "the Law" included the Ten Commandments. As they have been done away by the New Covenant, the Ten Commandments have therefore been removed. However, nine of the Ten Commandments have been reaffirmed, in spirit at least, in the New Testament. Numbers 3,5,6,7,8 and 9 can be found in 1 Tim. 1 alone, and numbers 1,2 and 10 in 1 Cor. 5. But never is the fourth commandment concerning the Sabbath repeated in the New Testament as obligatory for us.

The following list of passages documents further how the other nine are reaffirmed in the New Testament:-
•1st. - Eph. 4:6; 1 John 5:21; Matt. 4:10
•2nd. - 1 Cor. 10:14; Rom. 1:25
•3rd. - James 5:12; Matt. 5:34,35
•5th. - Eph. 6:1,2; Col. 3:20
•6th. - 1 John 3:15; Matt. 5:21
•7th. - Heb. 13:4; Matt. 5:27,28
•8th. - Rom. 2:21; Eph. 4:28
•9th. - Col. 3:9; Eph. 4:25; 2 Tim. 3:3
•10th. - Eph. 5:3; Col. 3:5.
Note that in Hebrews 4, the writer tells us that in Christ we have entered into God's rest, His Sabbath which is typical of the millennial rest which will be enjoyed by the whole earth when Jesus comes. We have found and will find our rest in Christ. "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30)

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In response to 1 John 3:4 – We understand sin because sin is a violation of Christ’s New Law. The whole Law was encapsulated in the commandment to love God with all our being and our neighbour as ourselves.” Anything that violates that law in any way is sin. Jesus swept aside the minute details of the law because they all found their fulfillment in him.

In him, their meaning shone forth without a “veil” of detailed edicts. That includes the Sabbath [see above]. Jesus said: Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

The true follower of the Lord Jesus Christ has found his “rest” in him and every day is a Sabbath day in which all that he does is done to the glory of God. This entering into of the Sabbath rest wrought by Jesus on the cross of Calvary and by means of the his resurrection from the dead, prepares the believer for that great millennial Sabbath rest which will descend upon the earth when the Lord Jesus Christ returns and establishes His Father’s Kingdom.

I hope that helps to clarify things for you.

God bless and keep you in His way,

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